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Comment from: Khun Don
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Excellent blog, Betti, thanks for all the travel info as well.
The picture of the elephant at the top of the page is truly amazing.
2009-08-03 @ 01:27
Comment from: oakmonster · http://www.oakmonster.com
Great pictures, Betti!
2009-08-03 @ 04:19
Comment from: Bill King
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Another great blog Betti

I did a three day stay at the Centre 3 years ago. I would recommend it, along with Elephant Nature Park near Mae Tang.

At Elephant Nature Park you don't get to ride on the back of any of the elephants there (partly because a lot of them are rescued cruelty cases). However, if you want to be WITH elephants rather than just being ON them, you will probably prefer that.

At Lampang you have the opportunity to ride an elephant the right way - bareback sitting on its neck. This is far preferable to riding in those chair contraptions, which frequently hurt elephants' backs.

I am hoping that more places in Thailand will be able to provide tourists with up-close experiences with elephants that treat the elephants with the respect they deserve. There are so many elephant camps at the moment that don't meet adequate animal welfare standards. Then there are all the begging elephants and chained up elephants....
2009-08-03 @ 11:58
Comment from: Leosia · http://leosia.com
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Thanks for the effort you made on this post. It's a welcome change to the mistreatment of elephants in Bangkok and the commercial parks such as Nong Nooch Tropical Gardens.
2009-08-03 @ 14:38
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Great blog entry on one of my favorite places. Hangchat (as the Elephant conservation Centre is also known) has a special significance for me as it is where my wife and I were married 8 years ago. Ours was the first wedding performed there...

Love the photos! I believe it is possible to make arrangements with the Centre to have a wedding ceremony performed there...
2009-08-04 @ 03:50
Comment from: Khun Don
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Occurred to me that people might have a lot more questions about the Elephant CC (ECC)-like-can I drive myself there by car, where is the nearest town? Is there accommodation at the ECC?
Here is a direct link from their site that answers those questions and a lot more.

http://www.changthai.com/knowledge/
2009-08-06 @ 03:16
Comment from: Bill King
I can recommend the accomodation, the food and the friendliness of the staff.
2009-08-06 @ 13:25
Comment from: David
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Just came across your great posting. The Centre is a wonderful place. My family took the 2-day "course" there, we began on tsunami day 2004 (and learned about the Tsunami only in the evening, while preparing our communal meal together after a long day with the elephants).

Might I add that the layout and atmosphere is like a national park (indeed, it is a form of national park). It's extremely pleasant to spend a few days there.

We learned that the official Website for the centre was developed under contract. Though beautiful and informative, it was not actively maintained, as the outsourced Webmaster had moved on. The changthai.com Website is actually a proactive effort by a staff member (name found on the Website), who will likely be one of your instructors if you take the course.

One piece of advice: bring excellent shoes, with good traction. I went through both my walking/running shoes, and my sandals, in those two days (both pairs decided to cash in while I was there)! Also, the courses are not run during the Thai summer, as it's too hot. If you go in the winter, as we did, bring something for the chilly nights and mornings. The accommodation is in very basic but OK "mahut" homes. When you're done with the course you take home your certificate of participation, your blue mahut uniform (as can be seen in your photos), great photos-experiences-memories.

We arrived by bus from Chiang Mai (which we were visiting during school holiday from Bangkok), as you described. Just go to the Arcade bus station and ask for the bus to the centre in Hang Chat. Ask the driver to drop you at the (well marked) entrance (we know enough Thai to say this, but you can just carefully and courteously say the name and probably be understood). Most are "fan" cooled green buses, but for us the next departure was a 3rd class air conditioned bus.

After the course, we continued home to Bangkok by taking the first (green) bus to Lampang, and continuing by train. The changthai.com Website has good help on getting to and from the centre.

The centre backs to Doi Khun Tan National Park and the rail line between BKK and Chiang Mai. This suggests the wonderful opportunity for the Royal Thai Government to link the two in some form, to run elephant or other safaris from the centre into the park - blending these with awareness (and training for those who wish) about elephants and the history of the area. Imagine an approach that used the ingenious creation of the Pilanesberg National Park in South Africa as a foundation, then created a Thai version of the ideas that the history of Pilanesberg would stimulate. BTW, as you (but not some readers)know, Doi Khun Tan National Park has a station on the BKK-Chiang Mai rail line. It's a great short (or longer - there are cabins in the park) stopover. Take the 2nd sleeper train (that departs BKK at 1940 hours), get off at the park, then you have ~3 hours to wander around the area and have breakfast before the last train (that departs BKK at 22 hours) passes through for a 1300 arrival in Chiang Mai. Our continuing leg on that last train cost 3 of us <100 Baht for 2nd class non air-conditioned seating. (In that cool season, this is the way to go! Great photos out the open windows.)
2009-08-08 @ 00:59
Comment from: Betti Email
thanks to everybody for all the additional information and insights. much appreciated.
2009-08-08 @ 14:26
Comment from: Betti Email
From the changthai website, it sounds like the latest elephant baby didn't make it through birth, but the mother elephant will be ok. :-(
2009-08-15 @ 18:57

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