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Comment from: Brad
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I couldn't agree with you more, Richard. If it weren't for your excellent write-ups on off-the-beaten-path places, I'd/we'd never know about those non-high-tourist locations. To get Thai people to actually think about marketing their country would be way too daring. They need to provide English translations of signs and literature only once. After it's done--and they have paid the expert for his translation--they can eliminate the dual pricing for the tourists. Fat chance for either the provision of English or the elimination of dual pricing. They really don't care, and it's their loss.
25/04/2009 @ 22:30
Comment from: Jenhan
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There is no way a tourist can take a cheap bus ride in Thailand if he/she doesn't know Thai.=(
26/04/2009 @ 13:49
Comment from: P
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Waaa. They don't speak English in an Asian country. Too bad they weren't colonized, it would be much more convenient for tourists if they had been!




26/04/2009 @ 19:22
Comment from: John
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I agree with you 100% Richard. I have lived in Thailand for 5 years and have also travelled in other countries in the region. In my opinion the TAT have to wake up. They just seem to be resting on their laurels as they think that the tourists will just keep coming. However, neigboring countries are fast catching up. I find places like Malaysia, where English is more widely spoken, to be more relaxing. They also have beaches, national parks and a rich culture. At the moment we are thinking about relocating there. Thailand is no longer the hassle free country with the easy going people that it used to be.
26/04/2009 @ 19:45
Comment from: Betti
luckily for Thailand, Malaysia is a lot more expensive - I mean if you want to travel cheaply, stay at a simple guesthouse, eat in the street, sign up for daytrips. the only exception seems to be public transport.
26/04/2009 @ 22:25
Comment from: Bergen
How "unfortunate" for Thailand that it wasn't colonized by a western country. Tourists have to haggle the tuk tuk fares with sign language. How inconvenient. Poor babies.

And if the Thai were to pick up a 2nd language, should that language be English? I've read (can't find the data source anymore) that tourists from China, Japan, and Korea altogether combined to be the #1 source of tourists to Thailand. I've been to China and Korea, and have lived in Japan. I don't believe the general populations of those countries speak English any better than the Thai. Those coming to Thailand probably prefer that the Thai speak their languages.

Personally, I embrace the differences, linguistic et al. I believe rewards await those who seek out adventures. As more of the world becomes more the same, I found Thailand more enchanting precisely because it is different.
26/04/2009 @ 23:33
Comment from: khengsiong
I haven't found language to be a major problem. I have learned a few simple Thai words, and of course I can rely on sign language.

Backpackers and independent travelers are adaptable. Those on package tours would need translators.

Anyway, Thais should brush up their English for other reasons, e.g. to be exposed to the concepts of democracy, human rights etc.

@Bergen
I believe Malaysia is the 'single' largest source of tourists, and we speak English.
27/04/2009 @ 14:34
Comment from: bucky
Agree and agree. Why are we paying 300 baht whereas the locals are paying 30 baht to a show which conducts in Thai? Sometimes I feel they did it on purpose to put off the foreigners so they can have the whole country for themselves. Maybe they don't really want us here except for our money afterall.

Poor marketing is also a problem. I bet no one knows Thailand is currently hosting the International Martial Arts festival (or competition) at this moment.
29/04/2009 @ 09:16
Comment from: mr.sing Email
I could not agree with you. I am a thai person. for me when I saw forieners need help I am so happy to help them. I am not shy to speak with them. I also write about english's blog to give some information to foriener who want to know about our cultures for fun and imporve my english. I think it's a lot of thai people need to help or speak with forieners but may be you don't find them.
02/05/2009 @ 15:31
Comment from: Angela
When I first visited Thailand in 1992 very few people spoke English outside of the big cities and I was forced to learn some words and phrases to get by. In the town where I lived I think two people spoke English! I have never been good at languages but it was fun to practice my Thai and I always had a very positive response. In Bangkok however, many people wanted to practice their English by speaking to me, which at times was frustrating as I wanted to practice my Thai! When I travelled to Malaysia I didn't enjoy it so much because they all seemed to speak English and it was so westernised compared to Thailand. These days many more people speak English in Thailand, even in rural areas, in fact I'd say that in my experience most young people speak some English and are keen practice it, which is a very different experience to what you have had, Richard.

Regarding dual charges, I am happy to pay more than Thai people to see tourist attractions, after all as a westerner I earn much more than many Thais, and I think tourist attractions should be accessible to all Thais regardless of their income, so yes, they should be cheaper for Thais. Obviously though, farangs living in Thailand are at a disadvantage if they are earning a local salary.
02/05/2009 @ 18:03
Comment from: Peeman Email
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What's so good being colonized?The Thais have their own right in choosing what language they want to use.I'm not Thai but I love Thailand and I learn to speak the language.Thailand is a very nice country and so does its peoples.They might be a little bit shy and reserved,it is not that they are unfriendly but it's the way that they're brought up.They feel proud to speak their language and they will treat you like a family if you can speak their language,even a little bit will do.Do French like to speak English?No...so does Thais,most of them can but they prefer to use their language to show their patriotism.So,please dont misunderstood Thais.From my point of view,all traveelers should have a "Plan B" before embarking on a journey.Dont just simply buy the cheapest plane tickets out of your country and expect to be pampered all the time.Be prepared for the worst to come.The best gesture in Thailand is to smile,"wai",learn the culture and observe the 'Do & Dont's"!Every country is different...that's the reason why we travel!If you can't cope with it,just stay at home and watch videos!Thank you.
03/05/2009 @ 08:34
Comment from: Ubon Traveller · http://www.ubon.biz
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What you wrote is true..as tourists, we're not expecting the host country to translate everything in English, but to make it more tourist-friendly. They should start improving services and having brochures in English is a big step..and I agree even local shows/trade fairs should be properly advertised, in their own language and in English..
03/05/2009 @ 11:20
Comment from: Annie Yong
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Agreed with your thought. I love to travel to Thailand and would like to explore more locals' travel spots but hardly find information in English. Fortunately because of your blog, I manage to know more non usual/common travelers attraction.

Don't give up. Thailand is a nice country and you are blessed for able to stay there. Keep promoting and your effort will not be wasted. Khorb Khun ka.
04/05/2009 @ 12:14
Comment from: Vijay Email
I agree with you, except about colonization.
In my opinion, unlike the French, majority of whom really hate English, Thai people find it uncomfortable to talk in English even if they know, possibly due to the structure/style of Thai language which is very much different from English. For example "vegetarian fried rice" is called "kao pad jae" in Thai, where the order of adjectives is in the reverse order (rice fried vegetarian).

Anyhow, there many reasons which makes sense for the Thais to practice English, and authorities of education and tourism sectors should take care of it.

Having said that,.....

I found the basic rules for communicating in English (whenever you don't know Thai) in Thailand as follows.
1. Talk slowly and word by word
2. Use simple words comprising common nouns and verbs in simple presence without prepositions (of course, being a non native English speaker, I am loosing my English skills & vocabulary by staying in Thailand for few years)
3. Use "no" at the beginning of any sentence if you want to express negation (but, again, it should be a simple negation only)

The simplest solution is, having a good Thai friend who can understand good English and ready to respond your calls at any time. As mobile SIM cards are available off the shelf and call charges are very much affordable, make a call to your Thai friend, tell what you want and ask him/her to explain it in Thai to the person in front of you.

Day by day I am learning how to make my days comfortable in Thailand and enjoying my life. In deed, Thailand is the cheap and best destination.
29/05/2009 @ 15:56
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Agree completely ref. tourism Richard. The Thais really haven't got their act together in that respect. I suppose you could see it as 'quaint', but in these difficult times Thailand can ill afford to lose any more business to the more efficient competition...

On the other hand, as an expat, I'm one of those who is determined to get a good grip on the Thai language. I find it very frustrating not to be able to get into the thoughts and minds of the people of a country because of a language barrier. So in a way I am thankful that they are not the world's greatest linguists. All the more incentive for the expats to learn the lingo, which I believe is the 'respectful' thing to do in the first place...

(Vijay ... it's a myth that the majority of French hate the English (its people, or its language, come to that). I've lived in France for twenty years before coming to Thailand, and this is just a silly stereotype the tabloids spread around)...
30/05/2009 @ 03:23

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