Interview With The PAD: Part 1
By Stephen Cleary
Sunday 2nd November, 2008 | 1472 words | Category: General | 15 feedbacks »

Hailing from Suphanburi Province, Ajarn Nimit Somboonwit a former Marxist, originally got involved in politics during the turbulent 1970s when he was Vice President of the Srinakharinwirot Student Movement at Thammasart University. For the following 20 years, he concentrated instead on his chosen fields of employment, which including teaching and printing.
After learning from the Asian Economic Collapse of 1997, he once again decided to become an active member of society which sought at bettering the country – and so joined the Civic Movement. Working with the Movement, he has been principally involved with farmers - promoting preservation of the environment while adhering to the principalities of the King’s self-sufficiency philosophy.
In 2006, shortly before the military coup, he ran in the national Senator Elections, but just missed out.
Presently an active member of the Suphanburi PAD, Ajarn Nimit has been a speaker on the stage at Government House.
Now, this may sound like a basic question Ajarn, but just what is the basic objective of the PAD (People’s Alliance for Democracy)?
Firstly, the PAD wants to simply protect the constitution. The current PPP (People’s Power Party) government wants to change the constitution so that the 111 red-carded former Thai Rak Thai (TRT) members will be able to get back in power and Thaksin will be given an amnesty and let off scot-free (politically speaking). Changing the constitution will also allow the PPP to dissolve private organizations like the DSI which have been investigating Thaksin’s crimes.
Much has been written and said by foreigners vehemently complaining that the People’s Alliance for Democracy is in fact ‘undemocratic’, not democratic at all. How would you answer that?
Many don’t understand - elections in Farangland are different from in Thailand – there is no vote-buying. How can you have a democracy when the government buys its ways into power? Thaksin and his cronies have dug deep deep corrupt roots. Now, that’s what I call ‘undemocratic’. Foreigners can’t come to Thailand and dictate that this or that is ‘democracy’, they don’t understand that the fundamentals are different. Thailand has never known a true democracy. Foreigners never believe it, but politics in Thailand is like a ‘game of investment’ and the profits are huge.
First, invest 30 million baht per MP, 400 MPs total 1,200 million baht. Next, form a government. With all those dirty old MPs, they can vote to pass budgets for Mega Projects. Projects which guarantee massive commissions of 10+%. The earnings are so amazing that the government makes ten times the initial investment and earns 12,000 million baht. Foreigners need to know that before Thailand can have ‘democracy’, the PAD needs to ‘chase out the government’.
What do you mean by ‘chasing out the government’?
The PPP is a puppet of Thaksin, it is not independent. Thaksin is behind the scenes pulling all the strings. Even former PM Samak admitted that he was only ‘a nominee of Thaksin’. Vote-buying a puppet government into power is not Thailand’s idea of a ‘democratically elected government’. What kind of a democratic independent government makes the brother-in-law of a wanted fugitive its prime minister (current PM Somchai). Not only does Thaksin want to get back in power and retrieve all his billions, he and his cronies are also bent on changing the entire system and that includes dissolving the monarchy. Government members have been caught committing lese-majeste, yet since they control the police force, the police have simply turned a blind-eye and failed to bring charges against them.

The last time we spoke, I remember you talking about the PAD ‘digging up the roots’. Please explain.
For 7 years, Thailand was totally under the control of Thaksinomics. Rural people were brainwashed into loving Thaksin because of his ‘populist policies’, like pumping an annual million baht a year into each corrupt village fund. The popular Thaksinonomic mega projects were rooted in corruption. Those roots of corruption need to be dug up. Have at look at other forms of corruption in ‘conflicts of interest’ and ‘corruption by policy’. Example: You are a politician (or ones wife) and so you can find out where to buy land at a discount price. So, as you area connected person with 'power’ you purchase it. When you initially buy the land you are informed that it is illegal to build anything more than 5 stories high. With your political cronies, however, you are able to have the limiting regulations altered, enabling you build as high as you wish. Mega profits to be made. A prime example of this kind of conflict of interest was the Ratchada land deal which Thaksin has just been found guilty of.
As for ‘corruption by policy’ - you are a powerful local politician who has gained the authority to access the national budget to build a mega new road through your hometown. There a few local firms you could sign the construction contract over to. Sure, the firm that wins your signature is the one which pays you the largest commission. That firm could also belong to one of your relatives. So, you can see why MPs are willing to pay tens of millions in vote-buying to gain this kind of power. They are in it for their own self-interest, nothing to do with the people. All this corruption needs to be dug up.
Some foreign reporters have complained that the PAD doesn’t seem to listen much to the voices and opinions of foreign observers in regards to PAD policies and actions etc….. Anything to say on that?
I would like foreigners to realize that they only read the ‘half-truth’. Take the English language local newspapers, they are good examples of printing only the very basic news, they are afraid to go into detail as they are half controlled by the government. Look at ‘lese-majeste’ cases, all they write is ‘arrested for lese-majeste’, but give no details, unlike some Thai language newspapers. They don’t want foreigners to know what is really happening. If they printed the whole truth, foreigners would understand more why the PAD are committed to protecting the country’s entire system and the highest institutions. The foreign press only gets their news and opinions from local English language reporters, but what kind of valuable news is that when the foreign reporter knows little about what he is reporting. The English language newspapers are censored – censored by the government.
The PAD wants foreigners to really understand the present situation and how really corrupt and dangerous Thaksin and his cronies were/are. But, unfortunately, they only get a ‘bird eye’s view’. English language media reports hardly report on what is said by the PAD at Government House, therefore, foreigners, unless they understand Thai, know little of the real situation. As for me, like many other PAD, I’ve seen the political situation for more than 30 years. Politics, along with the desire to see justice done for society, is in my blood. Most foreigners, like most Thais, need to be educated.
I’ve heard a lot myself recently, even from yourself, about PAD ‘educating the masses’. Please go on.
First, there is PAD’s ASTV satellite. That was formed because of the reluctance of the normal TV channels to report on politicians and their corruption. The masses are able, with ASTV’s transmission from Government House, to really hear the ‘whole-truth’. Nothing is censored. For 24 hours a day for the past 5 months or so, the masses have been getting only factual information which the normal TV channels don’t report. This is one reason the PAD gives out ‘degrees’ to supporters. You can compare them to real degrees in Thai politics – this uncensored political knowledge which supporters gain from Government House is the reason we call the area a ‘university’.
‘Educating’ also means allowing folk and especially villagers the right to access full, complete and truthful information about the work being done by their local politicians. From the past until know, due to corruption, people have been denied any knowledge on how their local budget is being spent. Another example of this, is disallowing the people to know the truth behind any mega projects done in their own backyard; such as the building of dams etc… Smoothy politicians have been able to fool their constituency into giving their permission for mega projects which has after helped to destroy the environment – a good example of this has been some dams. People have to hear the real truth and not lies as told by the corrupt village-headman, a relative of the local politician who is getting millions in kick-backs for the contract. All corrupt confidential information should be made public.
UPDATE: Click here for Part Two of this interview.
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15 comments
Looking forward to part 2 and the "compo"!
However, probably they do not know that it is on such a grand scale as mentioned here.
Thank you Stephen for allowing your readers to gain some insight as to what PADs motive is and what they hope to gain.
Having said that, how can PAD assured that future leaders put up by PAD will not involve practice? For over 30 years, Ajarn Nimit Somboonwit have witness the evolution of Thai politics. Have there been a moment that Thai is able to get rid of corruption and better the lives of individuals? May be the kick-backs goes into the smaller group of Thaksin people compared to years ago where more people share the spoils. From economic standpoint as long as the amount in % of kick-back does not increase, why is the fuss?
Democracy must be given time to matured. it is through education. With the advent of ICT, more and more people have access to information and given another 1 or 2 generation, democracy will be achieved. If you look at the French democracy formation and development, democracy only matured after the 5th republic.
He mentions that foreign journalists don't understand the Thai situation but I think they do. The only journalists who have visited the North-East and interviewed the other-half (the stupid people as the PAD like to call them) are foreign journalists. The Nation and Bangkok Post are far from neutral, and only print opinions and analysis which supports the PAD.
It's as if nobody can think straight and actually talk about the facts. Thailand under the PAD pseudo-dictatorship would be just the same, but with zero economic growth.
So when someone from the CNN or whether Dubya or Gordon Brown talk about freedom and democracy - it is not entirely ideal in places like these.
But come on, it reads like a dreamy Disneyland world, repeating a ton of clichés and offering a similar ton of glossy propaganda.
To this day we unfortunately haven't heard of the PAD what it is that they exactly offer and want.
They sound and look beautiful - but the real Thai world works differently.
Let the PAD prove themselves. Form a party, work from the grass root level upwards and leadership downwards - and face discussions and debates.
What we've seen so far from the PAD has sadly only deepened divisions and hatred within society.
They've become an end in themselves. Take away their mighty, nameless financial backers - and the PAD go "poof".
They enjoyed many people's backing.
Let's face it, most of it is gone. The march last week along Sukhumvit was like another nail into their coffin.
They didn't mobilize the masses, but turned out to be another traffic nightmare.
That's all they're now. A nuisance.
And suddenly ready to talk to the government. They realize themselves that they've overstayed their welcome.
Even worse: All they did so far is unwillingly strengthen Thaksin.
The Bangkok Post, The Newspaper You Can Trust, has been transformed into a propaganda mouthpiece for the government churning out anti-PAD reports as hastily as it does letters from Thaksin lovers in Postbag. Co-incidentally, The Post’s Newsline is broadcast on the government controlled NBT channel.
Since the staple diet of the foreign media is the reports as published at The Post who can not dismiss the possibility that the government is paying millions in backhanders to the big names there for positive government reporting.
Not only do foreigners have a only a “birds eye-view” state of Thai politics, it is also a crooked crossed-eye one.
The foreign media are quick off the mark to discredit the PAD for taking the law into their own hands, yet since they are children to the history of recent Thai politics they are ignorant to Thaksin’s past violent record of taking the law into his own hands. Thousands have died in the restive south since Thaksin arose to power. Up to 3,000 died in Thaksin’s War on Drugs, tens were massacred in cold-blood at Thai Bai’s holy mosque and another hundred were suffocated to death in Thaksin trucks.
Democratically elected governments in the name of Thaksin have been nothing of the kind. They have been bloody regimes.
As noted by Paul Handley in his infamous book, Thaksin has been dangerously meddling with the land’s highest institution ever since 2001. With his billions he’ll continue on that course with the delirious brainwashed DAAD.
When even the people that have all the profits from their democratic system dont believe in it, I wonder how democracy could survive...
Ben
Confirmed!
Taksin is a very bad bad guy. For any Farang who admires Taksin, please think twice.
He, as a prime minister, wanted to launch a special national lottery just to use the profit to buy one British football team.
He's behind the corruption in Suwanapoom's airport, the worst airport ever.
He said that he would stop involving politics but look what he has been doing.
He wants to overthrow our king. He wants to be the king himself.
I am very sad to see many of your comments supporting Taksin. If there is any magic to change the minds of many Thais and foreigners who still think Taksin is good for Thailand, I really really want to have that magic.
Seriously, Taksin should be killed. The faster, the better.
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