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Comment from: righttttt Email
What you described happens everywhere.

I hope you never come to the US. We have everything you described and more. The worse part is they are highly paid jackasses that will start a union dispute, or throw it right back in your face for calling them out for incompetency. They whole time hiding behind a phrase like "that can't happen, this is america." What a crock of shit.

2007-10-09 @ 04:34
Comment from: Noel
What Steve described in his blog happens just as regularly in the US does it? I highly doubt it. The litigious culture in the US means that an open manhole, for example, could turn into a potential money pit of thousands of dollars if left unattended. The differences are night and day in almost every respect.

One point here which I can attest to as being spot on is the issue with firetrucks arguing over jurisdiction. This delayed firemen from attending to a fire in my neighborhood a couple of weeks ago, which was a slum fire as Steve quite accurately points out it often is. Who knows how many people lost their homes unnecessarily due to this haggling.

Nope, that sort of thing doesn't just happen everywhere.
2007-10-09 @ 12:35
Comment from: khun don Email
I remember, on my very first visit to Thailand, asking someone what the garlands of flowers sold to motorists in Bangkok were all about.
"Thai seatbelts" was the earnest reply!
2007-10-10 @ 02:41
Comment from: Jerry J Bush Email
Enjoyed your last article Stephen , good one. Some of the people who also comment are wsie to how Thailand compares to America. In America people fall down open manholes all the time and their lawyer only tells them to watch where they are going.
You should also remember that in America no-one complains about blocked fire-escapes ar faulty electric lines.
Like Righttt says comes to America, its much worse than Thailand. hee...hee
2007-10-10 @ 08:47
Comment from: BD Email
No way is the US as bad as Thailand. The lawsuits would be insane. The only similarity is that the wealthy people in charge (WPIC) don't care about the rest of the population; they only care about maintaining their status quo. Though the WPIC in the US at least pretend to care about others when the situation requires, or if it will save them/or get them a few more dollars.
2007-10-10 @ 14:00
Comment from: erynnbanks Email
Thailand is one of many developing countries where corrupted goverments and their officers roam freely as they're pleased. value of the poor is less than dirt. Crimes against humanity are committed every minute in many forms. No one can compare these countries with the country like USA; that would have been the greater crime, I think. Value of life is subjective. In USA, people put old folk in the nursing home, do they not? In Thailand, they simply don't even think about that horrid act. The safety issues in Thailand are common in every place where people are less educated, less opportunities, less affluent. Still richness is also subjective, isn't it?
2007-10-11 @ 10:52
I think Righttt and Jerry have been away from the homeland for too long. I know a guy who tripped on a tree stump that was hidden by snow after being improperly removed by city officials back in North America. He was just a high-school kid with a fractured elbow that would have kept him away from his p/t job for a month, but the city still settled with him for nearly a grand, just so that he wouldn't sue.

Think that sort of thing doesn't have government officials back home paranoid about open manhole covers, low-hanging electricity wires etc? When's the last time you heard of a billboard collapsing and killing a pack of pedestrians?

Erynnbanks does raise a good point though. As dangerous as it may be here in some respects, I'd sooner grow old in this country than back home. Odds are unless you're plain unloveable (and the standard to determine that does not appear high -- check out Steve's blog on Thai moms for more on that) that your children will look after you when you're old and even insist on you staying with them... That beats the old folks home back home which if you don't have enough cashd on't differ too greatly from a low-security prison
2007-10-11 @ 11:48
Comment from: Dennis Email
This line of comments is especially interesting to me because I noticed the lack of safety concern when I was in Thailand in 2006. I paid from my trip from a portion of the fee I got from settling a client's case for tripping over a rock from a landscrape island in a mall parking lot.
The right to sue for personal injury or property damage comes from the common law courts. All that started in England and transferred to the US and Canada (imagine New Zealand and Austrial too). It is the same concept of law that enforces contracts, holds parents responsible for paying for their children, ect. In other words the law tries not to let one person (or company, or government) take advantage of the other and leave the other financially destroyed.
Margret Thatcher observed that it is this concept of law that supports fair human interaction and works to create wealth. Why go to market if you might get robbed, cheated or phyically damaged. Without the trade in the market the farmer has only what he can grow. But in the market we all become richer from the selection.
Its not a matter of rich nations deciding to be more fair. The expectation of fairness(or call it rights) helps foster trading and thus the growth of wealth.
Yes... I am an American lawyer. "So sue me."
2007-10-11 @ 23:42
Comment from: trangam Email
Steven, come to my place, and then you will never write an article about Thailand again. LOLz.
2007-10-11 @ 23:59
Comment from: erynnbanks Email
Thanks for letting us in for the short history of 'why we file a lawsuit',of course! we love to follow the common laws...not that we are greedy and see the rare opportunity..LOL Anoth ^_^ Another aspect is Thais don't see death and life as something abnormal. They are just parts of being human living on earth ( dirt or marble floor), so they don't really think so much about safety issue. The stuffs for protecting a baby from bumping his/her head are all come from Western idea of children are the prince and princess of the world. Thais don't think and see the safety issues the same way as westerners do, period. In their mind they probably wonder , Geezz, what the fuzz about being broken ribs, they do heal, you know..?"^_^
2007-10-12 @ 00:16
Comment from: jdavies212 Email
A wise expat told me when I first came to Thailand: "Here, you have learn to be MORE responsible for your own safety." True.

So, I check for life jackets when I get on a tour boat. I refuse to ride with a song-taow driver who endangers his passengers (yes, I stop and get out and take another song-taow). I stay alert for holes in the ground (manholes). I DON'T step on manhole covers (85% of which are tipsy). I watch for low-hanging awnings, and electrical wires. I look both ways TWICE when crossing the street, and THAT'S when the walk like is green. I take up-country buses as little as possible and opt for the train or airline when at all possible.

Yeah, seems time consuming at first, and the natives do laugh, but becomes habit and second-nature after awhile. When I think about the time and inconvenience to lead a more "guarded life," I just consider what the trade-offs are (higher probability of death or maiming).

It's called reducing the probabilities of peril in the Land of Peril.
2007-10-22 @ 14:21
Comment from: BUCKY Email
Imagine eating noodles at the roadside stall and a huge signboard fell and crushed someone to death... it'll be funny if the signboard is about public safetly.... funnier if this never happened at all.
2007-10-22 @ 17:23

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